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Monthly Ticket for Quest Changes #17882

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chochem opened this issue Nov 7, 2024 · 50 comments
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Monthly Ticket for Quest Changes #17882

chochem opened this issue Nov 7, 2024 · 50 comments
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Bug: Minor Planning For larger organizational issues, typically opened by staff or admins Suggestion Type: Quest

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@chochem
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chochem commented Nov 7, 2024

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2.7.0beta3

Overview

The monthly ticket for quest changes. Well, maybe it is the quarterly ticket for quest changes. A ticket for any large or small problems with any quests. Just post below. Of course, you can also make a dedicated ticket. In particular for more indepth suggestion or problems a dedicated one is better. This ticket is more focussed on small and clear problems and suggestions that don't really need any larger discussion.

The most up-to-date quest files can always be found here: https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack/tree/master/config/betterquesting/DefaultQuests
Depending on your version, you might also need to update BQ to use them.

Below are the remaining things from the last ticket (#16658):

Quest Changes

  • MCR quest says it is limited to 1 tick
  • better(?)dirt quest says the garden soil can turn into dirt. This is no longer the case see fix ic2 crops making any farmland trampleable Hodgepodge#425
  • item holder quest is somewhat misleading as the items are not upgradeable
  • Add info to the cactus and sugar charcoal quests that they can now be compressed to last longer (new in 2.7); also remove the recipes that are just copied from NEI. they don't serve any purpose here.
  • The apiary chest quest asks for GT version of the crate, while the craft only uses forestry's version.
  • Deep Earth Heating Pump has outdated comment about cost.
  • plasma mixer no longer requires UMV circuit, i think it can be moved next to the dtpf quest.
  • metastable oganesson is an UMV quest, but it was (implicitly?) required in UIV as ingredient for the dimensionally shifted superfluid that goes into UIV motors

Wishlist for New Quests

  • add quests for bastline (maybe not full detail but at least something?)
  • Add quest line or some tips on how to do Botania potions, specifically for Warp award flasks/alfglass/incense stick.
  • Quests for ravens new jukebox. They would fit best in Building better bases and could reward a pair of Headphones if you get yourself an electrical jukebox
  • add sunnarium bee quest

Add more quests to the mobility tab:

  • add quest for waystones
  • add quest for ruby slippers
  • add quest for infusion of otherwhere
  • move spectre key quests here?
  • add quest for arcane levitator?
  • and to the rails the Botania Spectral rail??

Add quests for new AE cards:

  • Advanced Blocking Card
  • Locking Card
  • Pattern Refiller Card
  • Sticky Card
  • Hyper-Acceleration Card

Potential Bigger Overhauls

  • the entire adept thaumaturgy tab
@chochem chochem added Bug: Minor Status: Triage Issue awaiting triage. Remove once this issue is processed Type: Quest Change Type: Quest Suggestion and removed Status: Triage Issue awaiting triage. Remove once this issue is processed labels Nov 7, 2024
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srdr2k3 commented Nov 7, 2024

UEV+ questlines do need an overhaul to accommodate for the new changes in 2.7

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chochem commented Nov 7, 2024

  • UEV+ questlines do need an overhaul to accommodate for the new changes in 2.7

since Baerschen and I cant really do that, this needs some volunteer. also details lol, general statements like this are useless.
maybe make a separate ticket and start outlining things.

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srdr2k3 commented Nov 7, 2024

  • UEV+ questlines do need an overhaul to accommodate for the new changes in 2.7

since Baerschen and I cant really do that, this needs some volunteer. also details lol, general statements like this are useless. maybe make a separate ticket and start outlining things.

The reason for that comment was to pique interest in the overhaul. Since the overhaul is quite new, not many players know about what the UEV, UIV and UMV progression is. I myself am a part of that portion, therefore I am not willing to write new quests or lead the effort in writing them until I reach those tiers in 2.7.0.

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chochem commented Nov 7, 2024

This ticket is more focussed on small and clear problems and suggestions that don't really need any larger discussion.

you suggestion clearly is not that. Please make a separate ticket.

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FireWarrior2 commented Nov 7, 2024

  • Remove fast mode mention from XL turbine quest (2.7.0 beta 3)
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@serenibyss serenibyss added Planning For larger organizational issues, typically opened by staff or admins Bug: Minor and removed Bug: Minor labels Nov 8, 2024
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OmdaCZ commented Nov 9, 2024

  • Might have been fixed already, but in UHV field generator quest it wrongly says that UEV is the last tier and that it is in the Endgame Goals tab.
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wlhlm commented Nov 12, 2024

  • Quest "What's Behind Door #\3": There's a typo in the second paragraph "unforunate"

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wlhlm commented Nov 15, 2024

  • Quest "The Benzene Tier": The required item matching seems bugged. The quest requires an Oak and a Spruce Bonsai seed bag. I randomly opened a MV loot bag and got two Plumbilia seed bags which completed the quest somehow.

EDIT: this apparently also ticked off "Wax On, Wax Off", which similarly requires an Oak Bonsai seed bag.

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wlhlm commented Nov 15, 2024

Quest "Pressure washing!": There's a typo in the last paragraph "Mmultiblocks"

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chochem commented Nov 15, 2024

thats fixed

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Because of how buggy and barely explaing galacticraft is, I recommend adding the following information to the related quests in the space race tab:

  1. "Can i build a Mothership for my father?"
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    Add the following: The mothership needs to be build like a space station. To do that you need to have the items in your inventory with you on a launch with the shuttle rocket. If it worked correctly you will immedtiatly see the option to build the mothership on the right of your screen, as soon as you enter the solar system screen. If you don't see the option, make sure you launch the shuttle from the overworld dimension (and not ANY other).

  2. "Fancy Stripes!"
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    Add the following: Galacticraft and the Mothership in particular are very buggy. Getting the engine to work is somewhat tricky. After adding the (correct) fuel you can try to force block updates on the engine base, or try to apply a redstone signal to it. If the nav console still doesn't let you fly the ship try to disable/enable the engine, maybe even a few times.
    You also can't reach the Ra system from the solar system directly. You need to first fly to a closer system.

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chochem commented Nov 16, 2024

this is not galacticraft but amunra. and if there are bugs your main focus should be to make a ticket for the bug itself

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In the beta, they made logistic pipes cheaper to start and do, but they didn't remove the requirement for other quests that are no longer used in the recipe.

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wlhlm commented Nov 26, 2024

  • Quest "Acetic Acid" (MV) text is missing a motivation for why you'd want to make Acetic Acid, I think. Maybe a sentence along the lines of "Acetic Acid is an important part of making Ethenone on your way to Cetane-boosted Diesel"
  • Quest "Ethenone" (MV) task prerequisites should be optional (Acetic Acid, Sulferic Acid cells)

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Impos913 commented Dec 6, 2024

  • Garnet crop quest should mention the process of garnet products using nitric acid in centrifuge, lots of nice passive resources.

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Impos913 commented Dec 15, 2024

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Sand-Master commented Dec 15, 2024

'The Water Dilemma' completes without having to craft all 26 water tank sidings despite it saying you need 26. I am on 2.7.0 official release.

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chochem commented Dec 17, 2024

  • mention in hologlass quest that double click on the NEI search bar is filtering the items in holoinventory

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chochem commented Dec 17, 2024

'The Water Dilemma' completes without having to craft all 26 water tank sidings despite it saying you need 26. I am on 2.7.0 official release.

hmm. that is likely caused by #15539

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chochem commented Dec 18, 2024

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LazyFleshWasTaken commented Dec 19, 2024

Add Questbook entry for the recipe filter block, probably around the sifter multiblock or ore processing.

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chochem commented Dec 20, 2024

  • Add Questbook entry for the recipe filter block, probably around the sifter multiblock or ore processing.

already exists it seems :)

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chochem commented Dec 20, 2024

  • fix typo in Recipe Filter quest
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SlogoSniper commented Dec 22, 2024

  • Rework UIV quest: No, it's not a Typo. Either move or delete it, if kept change wording of the quest. It currently comes before the first module of God Forge even though the item in the quest cannot be made until after the first module has already been made. The wording of the quest also implies that you must make Lossless Phonon Transfer Medium prior to making the first module of God Forge, "This incredible material displays exactly the properties you were looking for, and decide that now you can move forward with the first module of the Godforge."

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Flakxo commented Dec 24, 2024

very low priority and maybe seen as irrelevant, but maybe consider changing the iv+ energy hatch quest to have an OR filter for higher amp hatches, since by that point you can just request them through ae2 without ever touching the regular hatch, thus not getting the completion(although its unlikely thatll happen, which is why i said low priority and maybe seen as irrelevant)

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Maykeye commented Dec 30, 2024

Suggestion: make it easier to delay reporting quests: so you can play a lot, then open quest book and report dozens of quest as complete. Right now several quests requiring jumping through hoops.

First is a small one: Crafting Time doesn't remember you've crafted several crafting tables already. Suggestion is either to make it remember or change crafting to retrieval.

Second: in Your First Tool make retrieval task for pick axe head/etc optional, as if you delay long enough you have a quest where the main goal(make pick axe, shovel, hatchet) is complete already, but the quest book doesn't remember that you had pick axe head in inventory.

Right now even though I already reached iron tools, I'll have to remake parts in flint to advance the quest book.

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chochem commented Dec 30, 2024

@Maykeye this is not a suitable place for bigger discussions.

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Maykeye commented Dec 30, 2024

@Maykeye this is not a suitable place for bigger discussions.

OK, I didn't think it was that a big deal. I've created separate issue.

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TvL2386 commented Jan 4, 2025

I also have a suggestion: The quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAErg== in the UV chapter called "Upgrading The Reactor" asks for 1 UV Energy Hatch, while the preview wants 16. The same goes for the ZPM quest, but not the LuV quest (this one asks for 16)

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chochem commented Jan 4, 2025

I also have a suggestion: The quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAErg== in the UV chapter called "Upgrading The Reactor" asks for 1 UV Energy Hatch, while the preview wants 16. The same goes for the ZPM quest, but not the LuV quest (this one asks for 16)

dont blindly trust the preview

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I also have a suggestion: The quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAErg== in the UV chapter called "Upgrading The Reactor" asks for 1 UV Energy Hatch, while the preview wants 16. The same goes for the ZPM quest, but not the LuV quest (this one asks for 16)

dont blindly trust the preview

All other amounts for blocks in the quests are correct, it makes no sense for one of them to be wrong

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TvL2386 commented Jan 4, 2025

I also have a suggestion: The quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAErg== in the UV chapter called "Upgrading The Reactor" asks for 1 UV Energy Hatch, while the preview wants 16. The same goes for the ZPM quest, but not the LuV quest (this one asks for 16)

dont blindly trust the preview

I don't blindly trust the preview, which is why I've asked on discord, but I've been told I should know the drill by now. So what is it now? I don't understand...
The quest says it can handle recipes up to 640M startup, maybe the quest (and ZPM quest) should then at least tell me in advance how much EU a hatch adds, like the LuV quest

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chochem commented Jan 4, 2025

I also have a suggestion: The quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAErg== in the UV chapter called "Upgrading The Reactor" asks for 1 UV Energy Hatch, while the preview wants 16. The same goes for the ZPM quest, but not the LuV quest (this one asks for 16)

dont blindly trust the preview

All other amounts for blocks in the quests are correct, it makes no sense for one of them to be wrong

how many you need is recipe dependent. 16 is almost certainly not the right number.

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bluhbipo commented Jan 4, 2025

I also have a suggestion: The quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAErg== in the UV chapter called "Upgrading The Reactor" asks for 1 UV Energy Hatch, while the preview wants 16. The same goes for the ZPM quest, but not the LuV quest (this one asks for 16)

dont blindly trust the preview

All other amounts for blocks in the quests are correct, it makes no sense for one of them to be wrong

how many you need is recipe dependent. 16 is almost certainly not the right number.

the neutronium recipe for example needs all 16 hatches

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chochem commented Jan 4, 2025

its optional

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bluhbipo commented Jan 4, 2025

its optional

ok then how about we make it 13 energy hatches which is the minimum for americium?

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cecilialau6776 commented Jan 4, 2025

  • Quests AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNg== (Space Race -> Oxygen Gear) and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADMg== (Space Race -> Frequency Module) should have quest AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUA== (Multiblock Goals -> Compress All The Things) as a prerequisite (current version 2.7.0)

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chochem commented Jan 10, 2025

  • fix flower power quest. the seeds complete without checking the species.

also maybe add comment to some early seed quests that scanning is required?

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