diff --git a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/api/entities/Message.java b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/api/entities/Message.java
index 1c513dfcfc..127eef6e38 100644
--- a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/api/entities/Message.java
+++ b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/api/entities/Message.java
@@ -360,6 +360,25 @@ default Message getReferencedMessage()
     @Nullable
     Member getMember();
 
+    /**
+     * Returns the approximate position of this message in a {@link ThreadChannel}.
+     * <br>This can be used to estimate the relative position of a message in a thread, by comparing against {@link ThreadChannel#getTotalMessageCount()}.
+     *
+     * <p><b>Notes:</b>
+     * <ul>
+     *     <li>The position might contain gaps or duplicates.</li>
+     *     <li>The position is not set on messages sent earlier than July 19th, 2022, and will return -1.</li>
+     * </ul>
+     *
+     * @throws IllegalStateException
+     *         If this message was not sent in a {@link ThreadChannel}.
+     *
+     * @return The approximate position of this message, or {@code -1} if this message is too old.
+     *
+     * @see    <a href="https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/channel#message-object" target="_blank">Discord docs: <code>position</code> property on the message object</a>
+     */
+    int getApproximatePosition();
+
     /**
      * Returns the jump-to URL for the received message. Clicking this URL in the Discord client will cause the client to
      * jump to the specified message.
diff --git a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/AbstractMessage.java b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/AbstractMessage.java
index 2aade7038c..f267f73ba2 100644
--- a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/AbstractMessage.java
+++ b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/AbstractMessage.java
@@ -159,6 +159,13 @@ public Member getMember()
         return null;
     }
 
+    @Override
+    public int getApproximatePosition()
+    {
+        unsupported();
+        return 0;
+    }
+
     @Nonnull
     @Override
     public String getJumpUrl()
diff --git a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/EntityBuilder.java b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/EntityBuilder.java
index 70ae322447..450c427ca4 100644
--- a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/EntityBuilder.java
+++ b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/EntityBuilder.java
@@ -1751,15 +1751,17 @@ else if (MISSING_CHANNEL.equals(ex.getMessage()))
         if (guild != null && !jsonObject.isNull("thread"))
             startedThread = createThreadChannel(guild, jsonObject.getObject("thread"), guild.getIdLong());
 
+        int position = jsonObject.getInt("position", -1);
+
         if (!type.isSystem())
         {
             return new ReceivedMessage(id, channel, type, messageReference, fromWebhook, applicationId, tts, pinned,
-                    content, nonce, user, member, activity, editTime, mentions, reactions, attachments, embeds, stickers, components, flags, messageInteraction, startedThread);
+                    content, nonce, user, member, activity, editTime, mentions, reactions, attachments, embeds, stickers, components, flags, messageInteraction, startedThread, position);
         }
         else
         {
             return new SystemMessage(id, channel, type, messageReference, fromWebhook, applicationId, tts, pinned,
-                    content, nonce, user, member, activity, editTime, mentions, reactions, attachments, embeds, stickers, flags, startedThread);
+                    content, nonce, user, member, activity, editTime, mentions, reactions, attachments, embeds, stickers, flags, startedThread, position);
         }
     }
 
diff --git a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/ReceivedMessage.java b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/ReceivedMessage.java
index 83c7bb52eb..ffacef8177 100644
--- a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/ReceivedMessage.java
+++ b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/ReceivedMessage.java
@@ -88,6 +88,7 @@ public class ReceivedMessage extends AbstractMessage
     protected final int flags;
     protected final Message.Interaction interaction;
     protected final ThreadChannel startedThread;
+    protected final int position;
 
     // LAZY EVALUATED
     protected String altContent = null;
@@ -101,7 +102,7 @@ public ReceivedMessage(
             String content, String nonce, User author, Member member, MessageActivity activity, OffsetDateTime editTime,
             Mentions mentions, List<MessageReaction> reactions, List<Attachment> attachments, List<MessageEmbed> embeds,
             List<StickerItem> stickers, List<ActionRow> components,
-            int flags, Message.Interaction interaction, ThreadChannel startedThread)
+            int flags, Message.Interaction interaction, ThreadChannel startedThread, int position)
     {
         super(content, nonce, tts);
         this.id = id;
@@ -125,6 +126,7 @@ public ReceivedMessage(
         this.flags = flags;
         this.interaction = interaction;
         this.startedThread = startedThread;
+        this.position = position;
     }
 
     private void checkIntent()
@@ -332,6 +334,15 @@ public Member getMember()
         return member;
     }
 
+    @Override
+    public int getApproximatePosition()
+    {
+        if (!getChannelType().isThread())
+            throw new IllegalStateException("This message was not sent in a thread.");
+
+        return position;
+    }
+
     @Nonnull
     @Override
     public String getContentStripped()
diff --git a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/SystemMessage.java b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/SystemMessage.java
index 93a6faf9c4..426a5ffdaf 100644
--- a/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/SystemMessage.java
+++ b/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/internal/entities/SystemMessage.java
@@ -40,10 +40,10 @@ public SystemMessage(
             boolean fromWebhook, long applicationId, boolean  tts, boolean pinned,
             String content, String nonce, User author, Member member, MessageActivity activity, OffsetDateTime editTime,
             Mentions mentions, List<MessageReaction> reactions, List<Attachment> attachments, List<MessageEmbed> embeds,
-            List<StickerItem> stickers, int flags, ThreadChannel startedThread)
+            List<StickerItem> stickers, int flags, ThreadChannel startedThread, int position)
     {
         super(id, channel, type, messageReference, fromWebhook, applicationId, tts, pinned, content, nonce, author, member,
-                activity, editTime, mentions, reactions, attachments, embeds, stickers, Collections.emptyList(), flags, null, startedThread);
+                activity, editTime, mentions, reactions, attachments, embeds, stickers, Collections.emptyList(), flags, null, startedThread, position);
     }
 
     @Nonnull