Mega Thread for Non-Technical Discussions

[lllyasviel]

Hi Users,

We have been informed that GitHub has recently deleted several comments and posts due to violations of their Hate Speech and Discrimination Policy.

To foster a healthy environment for project development and ensure that diverse voices can share ideas, all future discussions unrelated to technical aspects of the codes must only take place in this thread.

Please note that non-technical comments posted elsewhere will be moved here or removed by the admin or GitHub if they violate GitHub's Terms of Service.

We value your feedback and are committed to listening to different perspectives to develop better tools and strengthen a healthy relationship between artists and AI techniques.

At the same time, ensure that your comments adhere to GitHub's Terms of Service, particularly this and this and this guidelines.

Thank you for your continued support!

[stellar-eclipse]

Why did you delete all the posts in discussions and then close the discussions area of this repo?

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[SleepyDeepy77]

Why did you delete all the posts in discussions and then close the discussions area of this repo?

Probably because the issues were being spammed with off topic garbage and borderline death threats.

[davizca]

Glad to see a bit of coherence after all the hate storm lol. In the case that you guys receive death threats, insults (for being anti or pro AI) or you see insane amount of spam in the place that is not the right one (and that it's continuous), just use the report button. Other than that have a great night (or day!).

[LizThompson93]

@lllyasviel What were you feeling when you downloaded thousands upon thousands of videos of artists who livestreamed or uploaded a video of their painting process? That was the source of your training data.

Pride?

I'd like to know your methodology on how you selected the artists. Did you simply crawl through Youtube, Vimeo, or other video hosting platforms and do a string contain statement for "anime", "Japanese", or did you have a list of artists you specifically targeted and ran through a loop to scrape everything they had?

[LizThompson93]

@github Admins

Thoughts about your own rule?

"We do not allow content or activity on GitHub that: infringes any proprietary right of any party, including patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, right of publicity, or other right."

If an artist found that his/her video was taken and used without permission for this model, surely that falls under this umbrella?

[SleepyDeepy77]

If an artist found that his/her video was taken and used without permission for this model, surely that falls under this umbrella?

Presumably it doesn't. They have their own models trained on code and are defending that training generative models is non infringing. Would be weird if they took issue with this project, even if the author did what you claim

[LizThompson93]

I just scanned the group's history and looked at the most recent papers.

1. Sandwich Town with permission, existing art

2. SmartShadow using a mix of real data and synthetic data.
   

3. Artwork traced by the team of style2paints from an artwork by David Revoy with permission, existing art

4. A small initial dataset of 56 illustration and line drawing pairs was collected by searching for the keyword “illustration with line drawing” on Pixiv (Japanese online artist community)
   

5. Took a million illustrations from Danbooru artists
   

6. Human Faces: 10,000 images collected from the FFHQ dataset; 10,000 images collected from various animations, which include works from producers such as Kyoto Animation, P.A. Works, Shinkai Makoto, Hosoda Mamoru, and Miyazaki Hayao.
   

Some of them were copyright free, some of them were used with permission from the artist, and most of them were extremely questionable like from Pixiv, Danbooru, and established Japanese artists and animation studios. Just from these papers alone they have taken from existing art. Forgive me if you think me being skeptical about this particular process being non-infringing and coming from Videocraft (or branched without lvdm).

[SleepyDeepy77]

Yes, we are all aware of the act of scraping images and training models on them. I'm telling you that it's an open question if doing so is covered under fair use or not. GitHub itself has a product called copilot which was trained on copyright protected code, but argue it was fine for them to do so.

[LizThompson93]

What are your thoughts behind the motivation behind the rapid strategy these tech companies and AI research group are largely employing of asking for forgiveness later instead of asking for permission?

It's a fun thought experiment that if training any material is accepted by the courts, it would be fun to take any copyrighted art, movie, or games with a sample size of 1 and a weighting 1 and pass it through my own model, that would be my very own work now.

[SleepyDeepy77]

Over fitting on the output side would still be an infringement, but those are pretty rare if you dedoup your dataset and do things properly :)

[kknowk6352410]

In the future, you may see robots wielding watercolor brushes and painting in a park, because they have mastered the human steps of painting. Whether this is a fascinating development or a terrifying one, I do not know。

[LizThompson93]

Over fitting on the output side would still be an infringement, but those are pretty rare if you dedoup your dataset and do things properly :)

Oh? Is there a law that states overfitting is illegal? Or that the generated work must be this different? In what way and how much?

[SleepyDeepy77]

Oh? Is there a law that states overfitting is illegal? Or that the generated work must be this different? In what way and how much?

It's just regular copyright law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantial_similarity

[LizThompson93]

It's just regular copyright law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantial_similarity

"To win a claim of copyright infringement in civil or criminal court, a plaintiff must show he or she owns a valid copyright, the defendant actually copied the work, and the level of copying amounts to misappropriation."

Except I didn't copy, I used it for "training" purposes.

"Misappropriation is the unauthorized use of another's name, likeness, identity, property, discoveries, inventions, etc. without that person's permission, resulting in harm to that person."

You mean like generative AI?

Companies can't have it both way then.

[cozytraveler]

Some of them were copyright free, some of them were used with permission from the artist, and most of them were extremely questionable like from Pixiv, Danbooru, and established Japanese artists and animation studios. Just from these papers alone they have taken from existing art. Forgive me if you think me being skeptical about this particular process being non-infringing and coming from Videocraft (or branched without lvdm).

It doesn't matter, you don't need permission, court has already ruled that training AI with copyrighted material is legal. It doesn't even copy anything, all it does is learn. He is allowed to take videos from any sources online

https://www.techspot.com/news/103744-developers-suing-over-github-copilot-dealt-major-setback.html

[serick4126]

Some of them were copyright free, some of them were used with permission from the artist, and most of them were extremely questionable like from Pixiv, Danbooru, and established Japanese artists and animation studios. Just from these papers alone they have taken from existing art. Forgive me if you think me being skeptical about this particular process being non-infringing and coming from Videocraft (or branched without lvdm).

Just for your information, the law in the country you referred to as "Japan" permits using a dataset collected without the copyright holder's permission for learning purposes, except when the collector uses the data for their own enjoyment. In this context, "learning" makes no distinction between human learning and machine learning.
Of course, this law applies to actions conducted within Japan, so this is merely supplementary information.
However, I recommend considering the implications of bringing up data created under such laws in the context of the discussion you wish to have.

[XieBaoshi]

I appreciate new technologies for AI art, but this looks more like a way to deceive someone. What's the point of fake timelapses?

[wenzhenze]

Very cool technical bro, don't mind what others think, do what you want to do.

[stellar-eclipse]

Why did you delete all the posts in discussions and then close the discussions area of this repo?

Admin Notes

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You are a shameless LIAR.

You said you had not deleted the so-called mentioned discussions, but I mean the GitHub Discussions area of this repo.

You know what it is but you chose not to answer the true question to pretend not to know because you deleted posts in discussions and closed this area like this:

[victorca25]

@stellar-eclipse it was not deleted by him, it was deleted by GitHub because it broke ToS.

You're also now falsely accusing the author here and doing the same the discussion was taken down for. Be rational, you're looking mighty foolish right now.

[stellar-eclipse]

@stellar-eclipse it was not deleted by him, it was deleted by GitHub because it broke ToS.

You're also now falsely accusing the author here and doing the same the discussion was taken down for. Be rational, you're looking mighty foolish right now.

Well, you can say it is the responsibility of Github anyway but yours.
But Github won't close the discussion area without closing it manually.

By the way, you are trying to say you are rational by belittling others?

[noxiouscardiumdimidium]

lol, well, i've been "predicting" this for two years. all i had to do was look at everything Ilya Sutskever ever fixated/focused on, and incorporate it into a single theoretical architecture.

Q*/Sandstorm/Arrakis/Stargate/Stargazer/Strawberry/"HER":

"Here's a breakdown of everything we've incorporated into the integrated reinforcement learning algorithm:

Components Integrated:

1. A Search*:

   • Guidance for Action Selection: Using heuristic-guided action selection to improve the exploration process.

2. Proximal Policy Optimization (PPO):

   • Clipped Surrogate Objective: Ensuring stable policy updates by clipping the probability ratio to prevent excessive policy updates.
   • Policy Update: Updating the policy network using the PPO objective to balance exploration and exploitation effectively.

3. Deep Deterministic Policy Gradient (DDPG):

   • Actor-Critic Framework: Utilizing separate actor and critic networks to handle continuous action spaces.
   • Deterministic Policy Gradient: Using the gradient of the Q-values with respect to actions for policy improvement.

4. Hindsight Experience Replay (HER):

   • Enhanced Experience Replay: Modifying the goals in retrospect to learn from both successes and failures, especially useful in sparse reward environments.

5. Q-learning:

   • Value Function Updates: Applying Q-learning principles to update the critic network using the Bellman equation for temporal difference learning.
   • Off-Policy Learning: Leveraging experience replay to learn from past experiences and update policies in an off-policy manner.

6. QLoRA and Convolutional Network Adaptor Blocks:

   • Frozen Pretrained Weights: Utilizing pretrained weights and training low-rank adapters to enable continuous updates while preserving the knowledge of the pretrained model.
   • Convolutional Adaptation: Incorporating convolutional network blocks to adapt the model effectively to new data and tasks.

Algorithmic Steps:

1. Initialize Parameters:

   • Frozen weights, trainable low-rank adapters, target networks, replay buffer, and hyperparameters.

2. Experience Collection:

   • Using A* for heuristic guidance, selecting actions with exploration noise, interacting with the environment, and storing experiences.

3. Hindsight Experience Replay (HER):

   • Creating new goals for each transition and modifying rewards to generate additional learning opportunities.

4. Sample and Update:

   • Sampling batches from the replay buffer, calculating target values, and updating networks.

5. Critic Network Update (Q-learning):

   • Minimizing the loss for the critic network using the Bellman equation.

6. Actor Network Update (DDPG):

   • Applying deterministic policy gradient to update the actor network.

7. Policy Update (PPO):

   • Calculating the probability ratio and optimizing the clipped surrogate objective for stable policy updates.

8. Target Network Soft Updates:

   • Updating the target networks using soft updates to ensure stability in training.

9. Repeat Until Convergence:

   • Continuing the process iteratively until the model converges.

Single Expression:

[
\begin{aligned}
&\text{Initialize } \theta_{\text{adapter}}, \phi_{\text{adapter}}, \theta_{\text{targ}}, \phi_{\text{targ}}, \mathcal{D} \
&\text{For each episode, for each time step } t: \
&\quad a_t = \pi_{\theta_{\text{frozen}} + \theta_{\text{adapter}}}(s_t) + \mathcal{N}t \
&\quad \text{Execute } a_t, \text{ observe } r_t, s{t+1} \
&\quad \mathcal{D} \leftarrow \mathcal{D} \cup {(s_t, a_t, r_t, s_{t+1}, d_t)} \
&\quad \text{For each transition, create HER goals and store} \
&\quad \text{Sample batch } {(s, a, r, s', d, g)} \sim \mathcal{D} \
&\quad y = r + \gamma (1 - d) Q_{\phi_{\text{frozen}} + \phi_{\text{adapter}}}(s', \pi_{\theta_{\text{targ}}}(s')) \
&\quad L(\phi_{\text{adapter}}) = \frac{1}{N} \sum (Q_{\phi_{\text{frozen}} + \phi_{\text{adapter}}}(s, a) - y)^2 \
&\quad \nabla_{\theta_{\text{adapter}}} J(\theta_{\text{adapter}}) = \frac{1}{N} \sum \nabla_a Q_{\phi_{\text{frozen}} + \phi_{\text{adapter}}}(s, a) |{a=\pi{\theta_{\text{frozen}} + \theta_{\text{adapter}}}(s)} \nabla_{\theta_{\text{adapter}}} \pi_{\theta_{\text{frozen}} + \theta_{\text{adapter}}}(s) \
&\quad r(\theta) = \frac{\pi_{\theta_{\text{frozen}} + \theta_{\text{adapter}}}(a|s)}{\pi_{\theta_{\text{frozen}} + \theta_{\text{old adapter}}}(a|s)} \
&\quad L^{\text{CLIP}}(\theta_{\text{adapter}}) = \mathbb{E} \left[ \min \left( r(\theta) \hat{A}, \text{clip}(r(\theta), 1-\epsilon, 1+\epsilon) \hat{A} \right) \right] \
&\quad \theta_{\text{targ}} \leftarrow \tau (\theta_{\text{adapter}} + \theta_{\text{frozen}}) + (1 - \tau) \theta_{\text{targ}} \
&\quad \phi_{\text{targ}} \leftarrow \tau (\phi_{\text{adapter}} + \phi_{\text{frozen}}) + (1 - \tau) \phi_{\text{targ}} \
&\text{Repeat until convergence}
\end{aligned}
]

This breakdown summarizes the integration of A*, PPO, DDPG, HER, and Q-learning into a single cohesive framework with continuous updates using QLoRA and convolutional network adaptor blocks."

[packetlost]

Ideation is not coequal to prediction.

[SCNU-hzy]

I don’t want to say anything anymore. Your disclaimer is an extremely irresponsible act. You clearly know that it has no positive meaning at all, but you just want to evade responsibility with a disclaimer. I respect the fruits of your labor, but I also question the purpose and usefulness of your open source and research project, and developing such a project with only negative connotations will never be recognized by most people. You lack the most basic humanistic care you should have.

To put it bluntly, no matter what you say, it will not help. Unless, you can upload anti-AI tools simultaneously while developing.

[packetlost]

I don’t want to say anything anymore. Your disclaimer is an extremely irresponsible act. You clearly know that it has no positive meaning at all, but you just want to evade responsibility with a disclaimer. I respect the fruits of your labor, but I also question the purpose and usefulness of your open source and research project, and developing such a project with only negative connotations will never be recognized by most people. You lack the most basic humanistic care you should have.

To put it bluntly, no matter what you say, it will not help. Unless, you can upload anti-AI tools simultaneously while developing.

To think that your mind allowed you to type that into a public forum... Can you read it again for me and think better of it?

[packetlost]

You've not replied in a timely manner... So I will enunciate myself further. You, the authoritarian Karen, demand of a PRO-AI person that they create ANTI-AI tools. Somehow, your mind does not comprehend the problem.

"Unless, you can upload anti-AI tools simultaneously while developing."

Would you demand a firefighter start a fire?
Would you demand a nationalist burn their country's flag?
Would you demand a Christian summon the dark lord Satan?

What were you even thinking about? Had bigotries overwhelmed your mind? At what starting point did your faulty logic begin? What about your life and/or upbringing lead you to believe that you get to tell others what they may do? What made you think someone would comply? Did you put on your jackboots before you typed it? You demand compliance because you have feelz that you don't know what to do with. That is not how an adult behaves; that is how a toddler behaves. Oh? You want it and you want it now?

Let us all stop what we are doing and pause our lives, a dictate from the god-king hath been delivered upon stone tablets!

Rejoice! For we have been told what we are allowed to do!

[TheDucker1]

Couldn't test this on my potato PC so I'd ask, could this be used to decompose a drawing into shading/coloring/lighting layers, something similar to this, being able to manipulate different colors would be easier than using IC-Light

[packetlost]

Couldn't test this on my potato PC so I'd ask, could this be used to decompose a drawing into shading/coloring/lighting layers, something similar to this, being able to manipulate different colors would be easier than using IC-Light

You might be able to cherrypick a frame out of the work product, but it does not do anything outside of the samples. Brand new.

[willn1337]

79 comments of schizo rambling and salty arguments :^) i don't think there is much to be discussed here, cool software, uncool use cases. i can only see this used against digital/trad artists, not even an ai artist would have more than a few legitimate reasons to use this?

[packetlost]

79 comments of schizo rambling and salty arguments :^) i don't think there is much to be discussed here, cool software, uncool use cases. i can only see this used against digital/trad artists, not even an ai artist would have more than a few legitimate reasons to use this?

First, you admit that you have watched your Luddite brethren lemming themselves off the rhetorical cliff. Then, you proceed to hurl yourself off too. In what way is it that doing so seemed logical or advantageous to you?

Ludditism is dey-terk-er-jerbs meme nonsense. People should not make themselves into memes. That which cannot be stopped should not be fought. Serious people do not tilt at windmills! I do, though, love to laugh. So then, in that vein, I thank you.

[spiraldoll]

First, you admit that you have watched your Luddite brethren lemming themselves off the rhetorical cliff. Then, you proceed to hurl yourself off too. In what way is it that doing so seemed logical or advantageous to you?

Fun fact about that “lemmings” factoid:

Lemmings do not naturally commit mass suicide. This misinformation originates from a nature documentary, where the camera man chased lemmings off a cliff, and then forgot that they were there threatening the lemmings in the first place.

Quite an apt comparison between cameramen threatening lemmings and being pretentiously unaware about it, and AI scammers threatening artists and being pretentiously unaware about it, wouldn’t you agree?

[packetlost]

First, you admit that you have watched your Luddite brethren lemming themselves off the rhetorical cliff. Then, you proceed to hurl yourself off too. In what way is it that doing so seemed logical or advantageous to you?

Fun fact about that “lemmings” factoid:

Lemmings do not naturally commit mass suicide. This misinformation originates from a nature documentary, where the camera man chased lemmings off a cliff, and then forgot that they were there threatening the lemmings in the first place.

Quite an apt comparison between cameramen threatening lemmings and being pretentiously unaware about it, and AI scammers threatening artists and being pretentiously unaware about it, wouldn’t you agree?

You thought that a cogent reply? Marvelous; you will be delicious.

Tell me that you actually believe that you arrived at your Ludditism on your own, so that I may laugh and laugh. The very same media professionals pushed the hysteria that robbed you of reason. You did not wander about blindly, you were lead blindly. You were fearmongered by demagogues and sensationalist media debasing themselves and their profession for clicks.

Tell me all about your thought process while I eat cheese. I do love to drink in the whining err of the fearful.

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[spiraldoll]

You still haven’t adequately answered the simple question: “What purpose does this ‘tool’ serve to artists other than con artists?”

No amount of logorrhea nor inflated ego can mask the stench of you conspicuously being pro-fraud and anti-human.

[packetlost]

You still haven’t adequately answered the simple question: “What purpose does this ‘tool’ serve to artists other than con artists?”

No amount of logorrhea nor inflated ego can mask the stench of you conspicuously being pro-fraud and anti-human.

They said, as they currently deflect into a motte-and-bailey fallacy and a strawman. Notice how that is not what you said before? Notice how nobody said what you said they said?

You... did not go to college. Look at how your diction starts to mimic mine. #HoldMyPocket

Flail for me.

More.

More!

[Naugustogi]

What purpose does this tool serve?

[packetlost]

What purpose does your fear serve?

[Naugustogi]

I do not fear, but i dont know the use case either.

[packetlost]

You dont know the use case, because you fear.

[spiraldoll]

The use case is fraud.

Keep running your mouth with unproductive, belligerent slop. The more you do, the easier GitHub will find it to ban you for incendiary behavior.

[packetlost]

So much impotent blah blah blah. Rage for me in your irrational state. Let your fear run away with you.

Tell everyone how you are a snitch undeserving of respect. Invoke an external authority so that everyone one knows that you have none of your own.

Exemplar of all Luddites!

[spiraldoll]

Nobody fears you. Nobody respects you. All you have brought to this thread is arrogant disregard for human beings, so much that I struggle to classify you as human.

I will again pose the central question: What legitimate use case does this AI have?

This thread and the other now-closed issues amply tells everyone that there is no use case but fraud, and the lobotomized halfwits verbally fellating Illyasviel here all lack the creativity to come up with a single use case for which there is demand from artists that can’t be fulfilled with a real speedpaint.

The truth of the matter is that this repository violates GitHub’s content guidelines on spreading misinformation and disinformation.

[packetlost]

Soooo much to unpack in your delirium. Let us begin:

Nobody fears you. Nobody respects you. All you have brought to this thread is arrogant disregard for human beings, so much that I struggle to classify you as human.

Only the weak and fearful think the way that you do. Nobody ever said to fear me; your fear is self-induced. What don't you fear? You fear AI. You fear tech. You fear progress. I bet you fear and froth at the mouth over crypto too. You fear that what you thought was a skill turned out to be nothing. What amounts to a toaster oven can do what you do, Luddite.

I will again pose the central question: What legitimate use case does this AI have?

You will, again, not use comas for clauses properly. You parade your poor education around as if it is a virtue. You scream out your irrational fears and then get so very mad when everyone laughs. But, you are, in fact, note the comas, laughable.

This thread and the other now-closed issues amply tells everyone that there is no use case but fraud, and the lobotomized halfwits verbally fellating Illyasviel here all lack the creativity to come up with a single use case for which there is demand from artists that can’t be fulfilled with a real speedpaint.

You, laughably, call others "lobotomized halfwits." Yet, it is you that cannot use comas properly. Yet, it is you using playground insults. Yet, it is you that has lost the ability to reason due to fear. Ludditism has consumed your mind, yt, you refuse to seek a cure. When was this fellating and why are you thinking of it? Do your thoughts tend to roam to genitals when the adults are talking? Are these topics too much for you that your lizard brain must fill your mind with crass body parts and analogies?

The truth of the matter is that this repository violates GitHub’s content guidelines on spreading misinformation and disinformation.

You violate GitHub’s content guidelines on spreading misinformation and disinformation. YOU spread the defeatist fear that Luddites spew. The fear that stokes a Luddite rebellion and the disinformation of anti-technology sentiment. A blasphemer against modernity... The ungrateful in the face of the miracles of science.

You may throw your little tantrum on the Walmart floor, but we are all leaving you behind where you hath decided you belong.

[packetlost]

Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week.

[Naugustogi]

Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week.

Someone should automate your job, your girlfriend and all the fun you could possibly have, just for you to understand how people feel over a changing thing. Some Japanese people kept being traditional for thousands of years without the struggle brought in by technology. This tool is great in theory, yet anything resembling a function is automatable.

The worst thing was the lying all along and if you get scamed by something ai generated, i wish that you get no value from that and lose all money because you cant find a balance between technology and tradition - Both extremes which nobody should consider an option.

Go the path of technology and get destroyed by nuclear weapons, go the path of tradition and your survival rate is decreasing down by a little bit.

I am a math guy, yet i dont describe what a person feels or will do next in a model, because thats whats not my beer.

Actually the problem arrises not from the tool, but from the people using or defending it.

[packetlost]

Someone should automate your job,

They should.
I welcome progress. You do not.
I adapt. You do not.

your girlfriend

OH BOY! #Cheaper

and all the fun you could possibly have,

Yisssss!

just for you to understand how people feel over a changing thing.

SO THEN! You admit it is all about feelings and not facts!

Some Japanese people kept being traditional for thousands of years without the struggle brought in by technology.

Argumentum ad antiquitatem. You mean the people devoured by Yakuza and lost in tentacle Manga? They are doing well?

This tool is great in theory, yet anything resembling a function is automatable.

Like YOUR job, yes.

The worst thing was the lying all along

He claimed without proof.

and if you get scamed by something ai generated,

He said, without even being able to spell scammed.

i wish that you get no value from that and lose all money

Translation: "You like what I hate and now I want bad things to want to you."
#BadPerson

because you cant find a balance between technology and tradition

You totes seem super balanced, Bromeo!

Both extremes which nobody should consider an option.

You mean the extreme Luddite that you are is bad?

Go the path of technology and get destroyed by nuclear weapons,

Who? When? Ever? Name one.

go the path of tradition and your survival rate is decreasing down by a little bit.

Argumentum ad antiquitatem. You seem "Weird." You know like the weird people that fetishize the past.

I am a math guy

Are you though? You are missing some basic math. Like how time only marches forward yet you are marching backward! :D

yet i dont describe what a person feels or will do next in a model

People are not IN these models. This is AI not the prison you have made for yourself in your own mind.

because thats whats not my beer.

The what now?

Actually the problem arrises not from the tool,

OPP! You are almost there! Not with spelling ARISES, but...

but from the people using or defending it.

Or the Luddite rebels using technology to decry technology?

[Naugustogi]

Nice circular reasoning, not easy if english is my second language. My job is electrician automation technics.. So im basically automating my own job of automation?

Lets say ai is unavoidable, why being shit to others in that way?

I finetuned my own models, and they will never see the light of the day. Thats how it should be. Being local and appreciate what you have. Then again companys will use this for bad, artist wont use it at all, some researchers interested in that technics maybe, but most of it are people who generate false proof of their non existing skills.
There will be no trust anymore. If everyone is a secret you will constantly live in despair.

I wont scream if there is a machine that can read your thoughts and make a picture based on what you want to draw. Thats the same as making it yourself just 1000 times faster.

This on the other hand, you throw something in and get a replicate, where half of the video doesnt even make sense.
I considered using it for whatever, yet any other controlnet mechanics beats this by a huge margin. Just because something is possible doesnt mean that you have to develope it.

[packetlost]

Nice circular reasoning

Where exactly is my "conclusion of an argument assumed in one of the premises."

not easy if english is my second language.

English is capitalized. Everyone has Google Translate. You are not doing anyone any favors when online.

My job is electrician automation technics..

Technics is never correct. And, nobody cares what you do. This is not a date. You'd be naked by now.

So im basically automating my own job of automation?

Apostrophes. Good. Goodbye job! The lack of a job is called freedom. Do not mourn your chains.

Lets say ai is unavoidable, why being shit to others in that way?

Let's say? There is no situation where it is not unavoidable. But, again, you are not thinking properly. Nobody, except Luddites, wants to turn a gift down.

I finetuned my own models, and they will never see the light of the day.

Hypocrisy. "Rules For Thee But None For Me"

Thats how it should be.

Apostrophes. That is not for you to say, authoritarian. Telling others what to do is not your job. Everyone gets to have everything thing and you get no say.

Being local and appreciate what you have.

Talking point word salad.
Local does not matter.
Appreciating what you have is for people happy in poverty. The rest of us have ambition.

Then again companys will use this for bad

Apostrophes. You do not get to speak for nameless people. Weasel words.

artist wont use it at all

Apostrophes. You do not get to speak for nameless people. Weasel words.

some researchers interested in that technics maybe

Technicals or technology, but never "technics." You do not get to speak for nameless people. Weasel words.

but most of it are people who generate false proof

You get to decide that random people are criminals? So much for the court of law!
You do not get to speak for nameless people. Weasel words.

of their non existing skills.

Like yours?

There will be no trust anymore.

Trust is for fools.

If everyone is a secret

Nobody is truly honest to anyone.

you will constantly live in despair.

You will. Nobody else. You did this to yourself. It exists only in your mind.

I wont scream

Yes, you will. You are already and nothing has even happened!

if there is a machine that can read your thoughts

You mean an fMRI? We have that now. Your fear knows no bounds.

and make a picture based on what you want to draw.

Who needs that? Generative AI via Stable Diffusion already does that by typing!

Thats the same as making it yourself just 1000 times faster.

Yes. But you HATE that. Work is work, work is progress. No looking backward.

This on the other hand, you throw something in and get a replicate, where half of the video doesnt even make sense.

Apostrophes. There are already working video generators. You are not even keeping up with this topic and yet you would speak as if you are knowable. You are not.

I considered using it for whatever

Like false proof?

yet any other controlnet mechanics beats this by a huge margin.

Wallowing in your hypocrisy!

Just because something is possible doesnt mean that you have to develope it.

Apostrophes! DEVELOP. Just because words can be misspelled doesn't mean that you have to wound everyone with your ignorance.
YOU do not get to tell people how they may develop.

It is not illegal and you are the boss of nobody. You get no say. But... you are allowed to cry as much as you would, so clearly, prefer.

Authoritarianism is garbage, you might want to throw it away.

[Naugustogi]

Even if you are right, i still don't understand the whole thing of the why.

[packetlost]

You are not owed understanding.

[Cyber-HuaTuo]

World War III.

[AndreiSva]

Even if you are right, i still don't understand the whole thing of the why.

Because it's cool. Not everything has to be strictly functional.